Mrs. Voshinin. Knew George very well; yes.
Mr. Jenner. And did they speak of his having been there, or what was said that led you to affirm that he had been in Yugoslavia?
Mrs. Voshinin. Well, for some reason, somehow we could not get together with those people. We just—you know, it's not very easy sometimes to talk to the people from behind the Iron Curtain. And I had definite feeling that they were little bit afraid to talk to us—for some reason.
Mr. Jenner. Because of your long stay in Yugoslavia, both you and your husband could have spoken with them? You are familiar with——
Mrs. Voshinin. Oh, they talked our own language. Certainly.
And we just—I just met the whole group once, and then one fellow was there who was brought up also in Banat region—[spelling] B-a-n-a-t—which is near the town of Panchevo, where I grew up. And he was very eager to talk. And I had the impression that he was definitely afraid.
Mr. Jenner. Afraid to talk to you?
Mrs. Voshinin. You know what he did? For some reason he would say—"Would you like to get out into the corridor and meet me there and let's talk?" And we would say a few words and they would come and he would immediately cease talking, you know.
And then again, he would say it—and it was always in a crowd that he would like so to talk. I don't know. That was just funny behavior—really.
Mr. Jenner. And this Fifth Petroleum Conference was when?