Mr. Jenner. They let him in in the first place?
Mrs. Voshinin. In the first place. So, they must have had some plans for him. He stayed there for a length of time. Right? I believe, 2 years.
Mr. Jenner. Yes. He went there in September of 1959 and left in—oh—the tail end of May or the first part of June 1962.
Mrs. Voshinin. 1962? So, it's three years. Right?
Mr. Jenner. Uh-huh.
Mrs. Voshinin. Then, for these 3 years—this is all our own theory, we have no——
Mr. Jenner. Yes; I know.
Mrs. Voshinin. You understand?
For these 3 years, he could have got his training? Right? Whatever it is.
Thirdly, his exit from Russia was so easy. With wife and children—with child, wife, and with suitcases—no problem there. Which is absolutely unnatural. Usually, American boys have such trouble getting their families out of Russia. You probably remember the cases.