Mrs. Voshinin. Tremendously [laughing].

Mr. Jenner. Now, if you can remember any more, I wish you would tell us about De Mohrenschildt's comments with respect to the Oswalds and the impressions that you gained of the Oswalds—as to how they got along whether he treated her well or poorly?

Mrs. Voshinin. Oswalds—his wife?

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mrs. Voshinin. Treated very poorly. Because De Mohrenschildt told us that he was beating her. Then, she ran away from him and De Mohrenschildt tried to help her, you know, to settle down and to separate somehow, but then, they reconciliated. And after the reconciliation, Jeanne mentioned twice that Marina had blue eyes—was beaten again, you know.

Mr. Jenner. Black and blue eyes?

Mrs. Voshinin. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Was anything said, that you can recall, of either of them returning to Russia?

Mrs. Voshinin. Either of whom?

Mr. Jenner. Either of the Oswalds?