Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mrs. Voshinin. That he does not believe that Oswald murdered the President; that he believes that rightwing or FBI, I am not sure—and this was, of course, awfully shocking to children.
Mr. Jenner. He believed that the rightwing or the FBI what?
Mrs. Voshinin. That's what the children said.
Mr. Jenner. What?
Mrs. Voshinin. Murdered the President. That's what the children said and I, frankly don't——
Mr. Jenner. You don't put much stock in it?
Mrs. Voshinin. No; I don't.
Mr. Jenner. Did the children express any opinion as to whether these were rantings or nonsense or——
Mrs. Voshinin. Of course, they were outraged by the statement, like everybody is. But what I want to say only that sometimes George gets so bitter he doesn't know what he says; you know, just doesn't know what he says. So, that's why I believe that you cannot approach George or Jeanne to this extent with standard measures. You cannot measure them by standard measures at all—what they say or what they do even. They require different measures.