Mr. Jenner. That was an escape, wasn't it?

Mr. Voshinin. Well, it was a little illegal [laughter]. Because they dragged everybody to the Rhine, you know—and somehow I managed, with other people, to get out of that train. There were hundreds of people who got out.

Mr. Davis. Did you stay in Austria, then, throughout the war?

Mr. Voshinin. Yes; almost out through the war.

Mr. Jenner. Now, Austria was occupied by the Germans also, was it not?

Mr. Voshinin. Austria was occupied also as well as Yugoslavia. And, of course, you had to go to the labor office—because otherwise I would be arrested immediately.

Mr. Davis. When you'd go there, they'd let you stay in Austria?

Mr. Voshinin. You see, every labor office was grabbing for labor force—whoever would come, you know. And, therefore, they would not disclose your name to the next labor office, you know. So, I—when I got out of the train with two other fellows—and, of course, it has cost us something; it wasn't for free, you know.

Mr. Jenner. You had to do a little bribery?

Mr. Voshinin. Yeah, to three persons there—including the guard which was taking, as we were explained, cigarettes. When we came out, we had seen about a hundred people who did the same thing—so, it probably was going—big business there.