Mr. Jenner. Now, at this particular time John and Robert were about within the age range of your three younger children; that's Emile, Myra and Cecelia; is that right?

Mrs. Peterman. Well, they were more around Cecelia's age.

Mr. Jenner. Around Cecelia's age?

Mrs. Peterman. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. Lee, however, was considerably younger, was he not?

Mrs. Peterman. Yes. He must have been not quite 18 months when she moved there, maybe less; that's 23 years ago, you know, and it's hard to recall all of that, to be exact.

Mr. Jenner. That's all right. We want you to just give us the information as you recall it. Now, Robert was about what age at that time?

Mrs. Peterman. I really couldn't say, but I imagine about 4 or 5. I really don't know to be exact on that.

Mr. Jenner. And John?

Mrs. Peterman. He must have been at least 7 or 8, because he was going to school.