Mr. Jenner. You mean, by reputation, he was born in Sweden?
Mr. Voshinin. No. He was born, as I heard, in Baku in Azerbaijan. This is part of Southern Russia and Baku is in Azerbaijan on the Caspian Sea.
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mr. Voshinin. And I understand that his father was a nobleman and born in Russia somewhere from Swedish parents—and that he was a rich man and——
Mr. Jenner. His father was a rich man?
Mr. Voshinin. Yes; and they had some big land, too, and probably some other interests which led him to go to Baku, because Baku is the oil town in Russia.
So, probably a very substantially rich man.
As he said, during the revolution, his father was arrested—I don't know by whom—and I think his mother, too, as I understand, and he, as a small boy, was running on the streets, was completely wild and hungry. And then his father somehow managed, and his mother, managed to get out of prison, and they moved to Poland.
He told us that he got his high school education in Poland and then went to the military school in Poland and finished the military school and became a Polish cavalry officer—and he was proudly showing his picture, you know, of him on a horse in a wonderful uniform. So—but, somehow, he did not like the military life, so he resigned and went to school in France and Belgium, I guess, and, as he told us—I never saw his diploma—but he told us he has a Ph. D. degree in economics.
Mr. Jenner. From a school in Belgium?