Mr. Voshinin. Yeah. And, later, he also referred that that company has interests in Nigeria—and he says, "you know, I am Swedish—so they rely on me."
The whole thing puzzles us a little because I think there are many geologists in Sweden itself—but perhaps they don't have oil specialists there. I think there is no oil in Sweden.
Mr. Jenner. Did you and the other members of the community think that he was exaggerating or this was all fictional?
Mr. Voshinin. Well, I couldn't doubt when the newspaper says that.
Mr. Jenner. When the Ghana newspaper said that?
Mr. Voshinin. Yeah. So he must have been in Ghana. He wouldn't print that newspaper—I hope. But, of course, he is a man who exaggerates a lot. He is that kind of character. I never believe 100 percent of whatever he was talking, because he was always, you know, making talk much more than he actually is.
Mr. Jenner. At least, he tended to exaggerate?
Mr. Voshinin. Yes; because he always posed everybody as a big shot, you know.
Mr. Jenner. Everybody with whom he was associated?
Mr. Voshinin. Yes, are—or to whom he met—that he was a, you know, big businessman, big oil man, and so on—big specialist. And he wrote an article about himself in the Oil and Gas Journal about Yugoslavia, his trip to Yugoslavia, and it was said that by knowledge of the State Department he was there; and it was implied that he was actually in the Foreign Aid, you know, and that he—and it was said, you know, like a little thing, you know, an explanation he wrote about himself. You can get that Oil and Gas Journal. And it was said that Mr. De Mohrenschildt is an internationally know specialist in oil, a consultant to at least six different governments and so on. And there was—all kind of countries were there, I don't know which ones but, of course, Yugoslavia was mentioned there. And he tells about his trip to Yugoslavia and he told everybody then after—when he came back from Yugoslavia he was called to the State Department to give his opinion on the state of affairs in Yugoslavia—"And I gave quite a lecture there to those boys there in the State Department. They all sat down and listened to me." You know, that kind of talk.