Mr. Jenner. Was it about this time?
Mr. Voshinin. No, that was before that time, I would say, because it was in 1960. We don't know when they left because we were not on speaking terms at that time.
Mr. Jenner. Had there come about a break in friendship with De Mohrenschildt?
Mr. Voshinin. Yes; but that was about the time when they left on their trip.
Mr. Jenner. They were supposed to do what?
Mr. Voshinin. To go by foot from Torreon on to Panama City. This is a city near the American border there and, as we were explained later by them, they went to Torreon. They have a lot of friends on the border, you know. There is particularly a very rich man there who is American married with a Mexican girl—a very rich man living near Eagle Pass.
Mr. Jenner. Do you recall his name?
Mr. Voshinin. Tito Harper, I think.
Mr. Jenner. Harper? Tito Harper?
Mr. Voshinin. Yeah; I think so. You can check it with my wife. I never met him but I met his wife. They're very nice people, very rich people, big businessman there on the border. They have, you know, business on both sides of the border, and they are big friends of George.