Mr. Voshinin. No—not that I know of.

Mr. Jenner. Or a name of that character? And they stayed in Guatemala while the Cuban refugees were being trained?

Mr. Voshinin. No; I didn't hear about that.

Mr. Jenner. You didn't? All right.

Mr. Voshinin. You see, they didn't write us from their trip.

Mr. Jenner. All right.

Mr. Voshinin. What we heard from their trip, we heard actually from Mr. and Mrs. Ballen.

Mr. Jenner. [Spelling] B-a-l-l-e-n—Sam Ballen?

Mr. Voshinin. Yeah.

Mr. Jenner. Sam Ballen is a friend of theirs?