Mr. Voshinin. Well, they made a trip before that trip by foot—they made a trip to Mexico City and back, just a short trip.
Mr. Jenner. That was by more conventional means of transportation?
Mr. Voshinin. Yes; yes. That was either by car or by plane. I don't know. I think they mostly traveled by car.
I know that they went to New York and they came back from New York and then went to Mexico City and then came back to Dallas.
And we heard—I don't know from whom we heard—that they met Mikoyan. I imagine we heard that from the Ballens. I think—I imagine so. But then I asked her about that, because I didn't like it, you know.
Mr. Jenner. You didn't like the fact that they had met Mikoyan?
Mr. Voshinin. Yeah. I wouldn't meet Mikoyan—being a top Communist—Mr. Mikoyan is a top Communist and a butcher of the Stalin times. So, whatever he talks now, I wouldn't meet him anyhow.
Mr. Jenner. In other words, you wouldn't have anything to do with Mikoyan?
Mr. Voshinin. No, sir; so, I asked her what is the whole story about? And she told me that it was just meant as a joke—namely that at that time there was a Soviet exhibition of some kind——
Mr. Jenner. In Mexico City.