Mr. Voshinin. Yeah. I wanted to know from her—because if she would go, you know, make some deals with Mikoyan, then I wouldn't like to talk with her at all.

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mr. Voshinin. But a joke—well De Mohrenschildt and his wife—they are peculiar people, always doing something which nobody else does.

Mr. Jenner. Were they unconventional people?

Mr. Voshinin. They are the most unconventional people I ever have seen.

Mr. Jenner. Are they unconventional in dress as well as in habits and things they do?

Mr. Voshinin. Oh, yes; oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner. Tell us a little about the unconventionality of dress.

Mr. Voshinin. Well, for example, she always goes around in trousers, a very tight trouser, with some kind of a tight bosom top, you know, trying to imitate, you know, 15-year teenager girls, you know. And he goes out very often without a tie or open breast—completely open breast. And he may drop in somebody's party in this state—and without shoes, you know. He may do things like that. Another time, you may see him perfectly dressed.

Mr. Jenner. He's unpredictable?