Mr. Jenner. But do you remember him distinctly telling you that his apartment had all of these rooms?

Mrs. Evans. No; I don't remember that. He just said it was a modern apartment. I remember him saying that. It could have been just one room.

Mr. Jenner. It could have been one room?

Mrs. Evans. Well, like I say, I just don't know. He said it was a modern apartment, but other than that I don't know what else he said, I mean, whether he described it any more than that or not, or whether I even asked him any more about it.

Mr. Jenner. But he did use the word "apartment," is that right?

Mrs. Evans. Yes; he said they had an apartment; I remember that very plainly, and he said it was modern, but other than that I don't know.

Mr. Jenner. But he didn't describe the apartment, as far as you can recall?

Mrs. Evans. That's right; I don't remember him doing that.

Mr. Jenner. And he didn't deny at any time to you that he had attempted to defect, but that he had failed?

Mrs. Evans. No; he said he never did.