Mr. Conway. Selfish—yes, sir.
Mr. Jenner. Would you elaborate on that, what do you mean by that?
Mr. Conway. Well, I don't have words for it except that it appeared to me that she didn't dress them as well as she might. She didn't care—they were embarrassed about their dress.
Mr. Jenner. They were?
Mr. Conway. Some of them were—John, especially and sometimes Robert, I think, but they were very stoical, they could take it, they were good kids about it, you know.
Mr. Jenner. Did John speak to you on that subject?
Mr. Conway. No, sir; John wouldn't ever say anything against his mother. My daughter told me that someone said something about—hearsay, you see, is about all I know about such things, but my daughter told me that she heard some of the kids mention to him that his mother should buy him better clothes or shoes or something and they didn't know why she didn't, or something like that and he shouldn't give her as much of the money he made when he was doing whatever work he did and he said, "She's my mother." He stood up for her and that's all he would say.
Mr. Jenner. I take it from this remark that you just made that the boys, at least John, certainly John, did some work after school?
Mr. Conway. John sold shoes, I think, he worked in a shoe store for a time. It seems to me at that time is when they were inaugurating this distributive education thing and I believe that's how he got his job.
Mr. Jenner. And did Robert work also?