Mrs. Murret. Well, that was all in later years. That was after her marriage and after my marriage, naturally. She might not like something my children were doing and so forth, and I told her that I always believed my children, whatever they told me. She asked me if I did that, and I said yes; I did, and that I had reason to believe them. I had faith in them, and I felt they would always do the right thing.

Mr. Jenner. She questioned that?

Mrs. Murret. With me, yes; I mean, about the children.

Mr. Jenner. She questioned you to the extent that she thought it was unwise, or she didn't get it that you should have faith in your children?

Mrs. Murret. That's right. She told me at one time, and I can remember this incident that happened if you want me to tell it.

Mr. Jenner. Go ahead and tell me about it.

Mrs. Murret. The incident was just recently, I may say. My son John was just married October 5.

Mr. Jenner. Of what year?

Mrs. Murret. This year, 1963—this past year.

Mr. Jenner. Your son John?