Mrs. Murret. No; not very much. Like I said, I had five children myself, and we didn't have a car; so we stayed at home a lot. Mr. Murret is a man who don't care to visit relatives too much, and we didn't visit them. They came over when they would be out riding around; in other words, they might stop by or something like that, but we didn't do much visiting.
Mr. Jenner. Your husband's given name is Charles F.; is that right?
Mrs. Murret. Yes, sir; they call him "Dutz."
Mr. Jenner. That's his nickname?
Mrs. Murret. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. Is that D-u-t-z?
Mrs. Murret. Yes; and they put it in the telephone book that way, because he was in the fight game years ago. He managed some fighters, and they have a lot of contact with sportswriters, and they knew him by the name of "Dutz," so that's why he went and put it in the telephone book, rather than Charles, so that they would know who he was, I guess.
Mr. Jenner. Does he still use that name?
Mrs. Murret. He does.
Mr. Jenner. Is your telephone listed in that name?