Mr. Jenner. You mean your son John?

Mrs. Murret. Yes; I think he was there.

Mr. Jenner. Had Lee arrived in the meantime?

Mrs. Murret. Lee had arrived; oh, yes, he was there. So finally Lee said, "Well, let's go over to the apartment," and so they all got ready to leave, and Mr. Murret said he would lead the way because they didn't know the way. He said, "I will lead the way to this place," so that's the way they went over there. Mr. Murret, my husband, took Lee with him, I think that's right, and Mrs. Paine drove the others over in her car.

Mr. Jenner. From the time that Mrs. Paine drove off from your home, did you see Mrs. Paine any more?

Mrs. Murret. No, sir; I never saw Mrs. Paine any more.

Mr. Jenner. How soon after that did you see Lee and Marina and the baby?

Mrs. Murret. Well, you see, I don't drive myself, and I wanted them to come over, but they didn't have a car and they didn't want my husband to go and get them, so it was 2 weeks before I saw them again. But one Saturday morning about 2 weeks after they moved over there, Lee came over with Marina and the baby, which is a very long way they had to come by streetcar and bus, and it must have taken them a long time, because they were living up on Magazine Street, and that's a pretty long way out to my house. From Canal Street up to the 4900 block of Magazine Street, that's 49 blocks, and then from my house to Canal it must be 50 blocks.

Mr. Jenner. You mean it was 99 blocks distance from your house to their house?

Mrs. Murret. That's right.