Mrs. Murret. Only that he might speak about his experiences in Russia is all. There wasn't anything else arranged that I know of, I don't think.

Mr. Jenner. Was this in a conversation between you and your son?

Mrs. Murret. No, by letter that was.

Mr. Jenner. By letter?

Mrs. Murret. Yes. We never would get to see Gene, you see, unless we would go over there. He wasn't supposed to call us on the phone or anything like that. But they do allow you to visit every so often.

Mr. Jenner. Is he allowed to call you by telephone if it's important and he gets permission?

Mrs. Murret. No, he's not supposed to use the phone to call home.

Mr. Jenner. But he may write you?

Mrs. Murret. Yes, and then we visit so many times a year—I mean, we go up there, but that's all. Now, we call him, like on holidays and things like that. We are allowed to do that.

Mr. Jenner. But he can't call you?