Mr. Voebel. Yes; they did.

Mr. Jenner. Did Lee ever talk to you about himself and his history, of his earlier life?

Mr. Voebel. His "history"?

Mr. Jenner. Yes; his background—anything about his family before he ever met you?

Mr. Voebel. Well, he mentioned the fact about his father dying, but he didn't talk about much else; I mean about when he was younger, or anything like that. Maybe he might have mentioned about coming here from Texas, and things like that, you know, at different times, but I don't recall all of that now. I got the impression somewhere that he wasn't born here, and I got the impression that he was from Texas at that time, but, of course, that wasn't correct, as I learned after all this happened. But, I mean, we didn't sit around talking about things like that. We were more interested, I guess, in things at school and things that were going around, more up to date, I guess you would say.

Mr. Jenner. Did he talk to you at all about his life in Texas, or to anyone in your presence, that you recall?

Mr. Voebel. No. I mean, he might have mentioned it at different times, just as a passing remark, or something. You know how that is, but if he did it has just slipped my mind, because it wasn't anything that would impress me so that I would remember it.

Mr. Jenner. Did you attend these CAP meetings once a week or twice a week, or how often?

Mr. Voebel. Twice a week, and now that I think of it, Lee might have actually attended two or three meetings. It seems like he maybe attended two or three of them, but anyway he quit then, all of a sudden. He just quit coming, so I figured he had lost interest in the whole thing.

Mr. Jenner. Do you have any idea what made him quit attending those classes?