Miss Murret. And I was sitting on the steps with them, and it was only an hour and a half.

Mr. Liebeler. So you were not able to talk to Marina?

Miss Murret. I said a little bit, but nothing—I mean, you couldn't really talk, and you would just exhaust yourself with petty things, you know, word for word.

Mr. Liebeler. How did this crabbing expedition come to pass in the first place? Did Lee call you and ask you to take him, or——

Miss Murret. No; I think that they were over there and he just said, I don't know, maybe just that they were going to the lake. I don't remember. And then they asked me, stopped and asked me if I wanted to——

Mr. Liebeler. But when this started out, Lee and Marina were over at your house on French? And Marina and Lee left from there and went on this expedition?

Miss Murret. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you form an impression as to how Marina and Lee got along with each other?

Miss Murret. Well, as I am saying, at first, I had no idea, when he first came out, but then after I met them together, and then since the assassination, of course, you know, how most of my thoughts are running back because that happened, but after that time, I am saying that some statements came out that he was very strict with her—I don't know. You don't know in anybody else's house, I guess, but from all indications they were perfectly happy. He was very devoted to Marina. He seemed to love his child very much. And as I say, I am saying that he was very well-mannered, he really was. And I mean if any other girl sat down, he pulled the chair out, and the car door was opened to let her in and out, and he does that for everybody. And, I don't know, she just seemed to be perfectly happy, and that is when I really thought that my imagination had just run away with me in the beginning, and that probably I—and he seemed to—I don't know, but they just seemed to be very family conscious and devoted. In fact, they were a real cute couple.

Mr. Liebeler. There wasn't anything about that that struck you as peculiar or out of the ordinary?