Mr. Murret. No; she was quite a bit younger than my wife.

Mr. Jenner. You're talking about Lillian Murret, your wife, and Marguerite's sister, now, is that right?

Mr. Murret. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Do you know a man by the name of John Pic, or Ed Pic?

Mr. Murret. Ed is all I knew him by.

Mr. Jenner. Did you see him once in a while?

Mr. Murret. Oh, I saw him just by chance.

Mr. Jenner. But you did see him once in a while over the years, is that right?

Mr. Murret. Oh, yes and I still do, as a matter of fact, but not very often. He has been with T. Smith, Stevedores, for many, many years.

Mr. Jenner. Does he have a responsible position with T. Smith?