Mr. Wulf. Of 1955, yes. It is sketchy. I really cannot say for sure. I could probably get it from the Astronomy Club's records, but——
Mr. Liebeler. The occasion of your first meeting was that he came to join the Astronomy Association——
Mr. Wulf. That is correct.
Mr. Liebeler. With McBride. Did become closely acquainted with McBride and become a friend of his after that?
Mr. Wulf. Oh, yes. I still, up until about 9 months ago kept in contact with him, and I still know of his whereabouts, and when he comes to the city I still see him.
Mr. Liebeler. McBride at that time was working at Pfisterer's Dental Laboratory? Is that right?
Mr. Wulf. Yes, sir. I believe he was a delivery boy or a runner. I don't know the exact title of his position.
Mr. Liebeler. Have you ever spoken with McBride about Lee Oswald?
Mr. Wulf. Only at the time that—two occasions or possibly three—I think it was two occasions that I met Oswald, and I got some of Oswald's beliefs, and I told—McBride had always told me that he wanted to get into the military service as a career, especially rocket engineering and rocketry—like we all were nuts on rocketry at the time—and I told him, I said, "This boy Oswald, if you associated with him, could be construed as a security risk, and especially if you want to get into a job position where the information you know could be of a security nature or of a type that could be of a security risk nature."
Mr. Liebeler. You told that to McBride some time back in 1955? Is that correct?