Dr. Hartogs. No; on the day after President Kennedy died, the television people asked me to make a statement on television in general about why somebody might kill the President. I did not mention any name. I did not refer to any individual. I just made some general psychiatric remarks as to what kind of a person would kill the President.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you recall approximately what you said?
Dr. Hartogs. That a person who would commit such an act has been very likely a mentally disturbed person, who has a personal grudge against persons in authority, and very likely is a person who in his search to overcome his own insignificance and helplessness will try to commit an act which will make others frightened, which will shatter the world, which will make other people insecure, as if he wanted to discharge his own insecurity through his own act, something like that in general terms.
Mr. Liebeler. Was it indicated by you at that time, or was it indicated on the television broadcast that you were the psychiatrist who had examined Lee Oswald?
Dr. Hartogs. No, no.
Mr. Liebeler. It was not?
Dr. Hartogs. No, no. They didn't know. They called me because they call me very often to give some psychiatric explanations of murderers or something like that. They did not know, and I did not know for sure.
Mr. Liebeler. At that time neither one of you were——
Dr. Hartogs. And they selected me. I mean it was a fantastic thing.
Mr. Liebeler. It was purely coincidence?