Mr. Liebeler. Have you seen him since that time?
Mrs. Siegel. No; we don't see each other socially at all.
Mr. Liebeler. And you haven't spoken to him?
Mrs. Siegel. No; I haven't.
Mr. Liebeler. About the Oswald case; is that right?
Mrs. Siegel. No; I haven't seen him since I left Youth House.
Mr. Liebeler. Do you have any recollection that from time to time the psychiatrist, Dr. Hartogs, would give seminars as a technique to instruct or provide examples to the social workers and perhaps the psychologists and other employees of Youth House?
Mrs. Siegel. Well, I don't remember that Dr. Hartogs gave the seminars. We all participated in them, social workers and psychiatrists. I remember them vividly. I was a participant, myself.
Mr. Liebeler. I didn't mean to characterize Dr. Hartogs' role as being the sole role.
Mrs. Siegel. Oh, no.