Mr. Jenner. Do you know what year that was?

Mr. Voebel. Let's see. I will have to figure that out. That was about 1954 or 1955.

Mr. Jenner. How did you become aware of him?

Mr. Voebel. Going to school there. Do you want me to tell you the whole story?

Mr. Jenner. Well, let's get in a few preliminary remarks first. I would like to have a little background in the record before we go into that.

Mr. Voebel. Yes, sir. I don't exactly remember when I first saw him, because I might have seen him going to school and back without knowing who it was, but I really became acquainted with him when he had this fight with this boy, and we took him back into the boy's restroom and tried to patch him up a bit.

Mr. Jenner. Were there individuals involved in this fight that you remember?

Mr. Voebel. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Tell me the circumstances of that, please.

Mr. Voebel. Well, the day before, maybe a couple of days before, Lee had a fight with a couple of boys.