Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. With George's daughter.

Mr. Jenner. Alexandra?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; but Alexandra couldn't understand her. She thought it was horrible the way she treats that baby. It is true she doesn't know how to raise the baby. Alexandra told me she was lazy, also, and she wasn't clean, and things like that.

Now I remember how come it was that she wasn't clean. Alexandra was complaining about her. So Alexandra—it didn't hit off exactly with Alexandra, but it was very nice. Her husband went to visit them after, and I think they helped them to move, even.

Mr. Jenner. Gary Taylor?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; Gary is insignificant but a good soul, a good boy, you know. He is nothing at all.

Mr. Jenner. You mean he is not a man of attainment?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. Yes; but he is a good soul. He is really good, so I could never be very angry for what happened. It was just a child's prank that he ran off so early and got married. In fact, I was sorry for him because I knew he is not going to be happy, not to start with. I knew he was not going to be. I believe kids helped them quite some and maybe the kids consoled them after.

Mr. Jenner. Was anything ever said by Marina or your husband that she sought to have Oswald leave Russia and come to the United States?

Mrs. De Mohrenschildt. I don't think so. It is just impressions we had.