Mr. Liebeler. Let's go back to the conversation that you were having with Mr. Bouhe about possibility that Oswald might have been sent here by the Russians for some purpose, that the Russians had devised for him or asked him to do it.

Mrs. Ray. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Tell us as best you can recall what the conversation was?

Mrs. Ray. Well, seems to be everybody that hasn't just—first I talk with George but then everybody just starting wondering, you know, said why they taken him back; said that's funny, they should not taken him back, never can tell what is going happen. George—one said he don't have any guts to do anything, not any kind—he is just man that is silly. We just decided on this party that he just isn't crazy but—I don't know how to explain.

Mr. Liebeler. Mental case?

Mrs. Ray. Really not this way but we decided that he just not any count. He isn't any good. He said he try to be smart; he don't have enough sense. Said—they said they going to be through with him. They don't want have anything to do with him any more.

Mr. Liebeler. Was this conversation carried on in Russian or in English?

Mrs. Ray. In Russian.

Mr. Liebeler. Was your husband there at the time?

Mrs. Ray. Yeah; sometimes we tell him what is going on and he ask me sometimes. He remember this discussion, too.