Mr. Jenner. You mean isolated from her friends?
Mrs. Paine. All right; yes.
Mr. Jenner. Do you really mean that, isolated rather than protected from?
Mrs. Paine. Well, that someone may have thought she should not talk to me.
Mr. Jenner. Yes.
Mrs. Paine. And, further, I learned that she hadn't spoken at an earlier time, at that time, to Mrs. Ford. I did not know of anyone who spoke Russian except for official translators for Secret Service or the FBI who had been to see her, and this seemed to me wrong. So I was concerned. And when I reported this conversation with Mr. Thorne to Marina, she said, "Well, that is a lie" and I said——
Mr. Jenner. She said——
Mrs. Paine. That is a lie. She had delegated power of attorney, and I knew that at this time I was reporting the conversation to Marina on the 9th of March because I had read it in the paper.
Mr. Jenner. You had learned it in the meantime?
Mrs. Paine. Had learned in the meantime that she had delegated power of attorney.