Mrs. Paine. Yes; and I said she has seen the range of kind of people in America—one side the many generous people who sent her thoughtful notes and small checks to help her in her financial difficulty, and on the other side the wolves who wanted to gain money from this situation for themselves. And she concurred in that.

Mr. Jenner. She was aware of that distinction?

Did she indicate an awareness of that?

Mrs. Paine. She thought that was an apt description; yes. I felt that she thought that.

Mr. Jenner. Now, have you told us everything you can recall about Lee Oswald's ability to drive an automobile and operate an automobile, and your efforts to improve that driving capacity, and his efforts to obtain a driver's license? Is there anything at all now that you can recall that you have not told us?

Mrs. Paine. There isn't anything at all.

Mr. Jenner. Was there any conversation any time with respect to Lee Oswald himself returning to Russia, as distinguished from Marina being returned to Russia?

Mrs. Paine. There was no conversation of any sort nor any implication of that to me at any time.

Mr. Jenner. Was there any discussion at any time on the subject of his desiring to obtain or having obtained a passport to Russia in the summer of 1963 or any other time?

Mrs. Paine. There was no discussion of this at any time in my presence.