Mrs. Paine. No.
Mr. Jenner. My statement is correct?
Mrs. Paine. I have no recollection of any other kind of luggage being used by him.
Mr. Jenner. Did the subject of abortion—was the subject of abortion ever one discussed between you and Marina?
Mrs. Paine. Yes. And I think I have so testified. When—part of our first meeting, as we talked in the park, or close to the first meeting, after having left her apartment in March, and walked to the park—she told me that she was going to have a baby, and she said that she didn't believe in abortion.
Mr. Jenner. Is that when the discussion occurred on birth control?
Mrs. Paine. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. And was that discussion on birth control directed towards her avoiding a larger family?
Mrs. Paine. Future pregnancies; yes.