Mrs. Paine. Of things he had told me himself?
Mr. Jenner. That is right. That emanated from him.
Mrs. Paine. I don't think of anything.
Mr. Jenner. Now, I will then ask you the same question as to Marina—that is, tell us everything else you can think of that you have not already told us that you learned about Lee Oswald's sojourn in Russia, that you might have learned through Marina.
Mrs. Paine. Well, I did learn that they applied for a passport for all of them, that it was a long time coming—no particular length of time mentioned. That they went to Moscow first and then by train, I gather, to Holland, and then by boat to New York City, stayed there a day or less, and came directly to Fort Worth. She mentioned to me, as I testified, that they had borrowed money for the payment of their steamship passage.
Mr. Jenner. Borrowed it from the State Department?
Mrs. Paine. I don't recall that she mentioned from whom. Just that they had borrowed it and paid it back. She said that Lee had an apartment by himself in Minsk, which was unusual.
Mr. Jenner. Did she say it was unusual?
Mrs. Paine. Yes; she said it was unusual. That, in fact, it caused a little bit of resentment from those who didn't have so much privacy. And I gather that she moved into it after they were married.
Mr. Jenner. That is a fact, at least according to her testimony.