Mr. Davis. Has your wife or you or have you all heard of anyone since the time he came out where it has been easier for people to come and go? I believe your wife mentioned she thought it would be easier to contact her niece if conditions were easing up to that degree. Has this proved to be?

Mr. Ray. I don't know; 2 or 3 years ago she tried to call her niece on the telephone and tried 2 or 3 days and finally made the connection and the niece said, "Hello," and the line was out like that and she finally gave up.

Mr. Davis. In other words, to your knowledge you have seen no evidence it has been made easier to communicate back and forth?

Mr. Ray. No; fact of the business, my wife's mother had been dead a couple years before we even knew it.

Mr. Davis. How long has this been you received that information?

Mr. Ray. I think she died in 1953; I know it was a couple years gone by when my wife found out about it.

Mr. Liebeler. Was your wife's mother living in Stalingrad when she died, do you know?

Mr. Ray. I don't know. She was, I believe, in Arzamas; I am not sure that's where she died but that's near Stalingrad, some place near Stalingrad and that's where at least part of my wife's upbringing, you know, took place, in Arzamas.

Mr. Liebeler. Do you think now that you have told us about all you know or all you remember about your contact with Oswald and the discussion that you had about him? If there is anything you want to add at this point, go right ahead.

Mr. Ray. I think we pretty well covered it. I hope you have.