Mr. Ballen. In New York City.

Mr. Liebeler. When did you move to Dallas?

Mr. Ballen. November 1950.

Mr. Liebeler. What is your age, sir?

Mr. Ballen. Forty-two.

Mr. Liebeler. Would you tell us briefly your educational background?

Mr. Ballen. I went to public schools in New York. Attended Townsend Harris High; attended C.C.N.Y.; received a BBA Degree from C.C.N.Y., and then have also taken extension courses at Columbia University, Manhattan College, NYU Graduate School of Banking, Oklahoma University, and Texas A&M.

Mr. Liebeler. What were the graduate courses in, generally?

Mr. Ballen. Three fields. Money and banking; geology; and petroleum engineering.

Mr. Liebeler. Did there come a time when you made the acquaintance of Lee Harvey Oswald?