Mrs. Paine. All right.

Mr. Jenner. Miss Reporter, the cream colored curtain rod, we will mark Ruth Paine Exhibit 275 and the white one as Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 276.

(The curtain rods referred to were at this time marked by the reporter as Ruth Paine Exhibit Nos. 275 and 276, for identification.)

Mr. Jenner. Since we will have the exact physical exhibits we don't have to measure them, but perhaps for somebody who is reading the record, Mr. Howlett, your suggestion that we measure them is not a bad one. Let me describe the configuration of these rods. They are very light weight—what would you say that metal is, Mr. Howlett, tin—heavy tin?

Agent Howlett. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. They are the sliding or extension type, one fitting into the other when closed entirely, measuring from upended tip to upended tip they are——

Agent Howlett. The white one is 2 feet 3½ inches.

Mr. Jenner. And the cream colored one measured in the like fashion?

Agent Howlett. It is 2 feet 3½ inches.

Mr. Jenner. These curtain rods—the ends of each of them are turned. Those ends extending are turned up how many inches?