Mr. Ballen. He indicated to me that he was not employed.

Mr. Liebeler. He told you he was living at the YMCA in Dallas, is that correct?

Mr. Ballen. That's correct. He told me that his—I knew he had a wife and child, and he indicated that his wife was staying with some friends, and his child, but he at that time was working out of the YMCA.

Mr. Liebeler. Did he tell you where his wife was staying?

Mr. Ballen. No. I would have had some vague idea about that from the De Mohrenschildts.

Mr. Liebeler. Did you have an idea from De Mohrenschildt?

Mr. Ballen. I had the idea that they were either moving into or just coming out of some apartment, and I would have an idea, which is very vague and not too accurate, that this may have been somewhere in the Oak Cliff region.

Mr. Liebeler. Did Oswald tell you anything about his previous employment?

Mr. Ballen. Just during the course of my trying to be helpful to him and of trying to see what skills he had so that I could try to develop some employment for him.

He did say that he had some training in the U.S.S.R., in some area in the field of photography—no, some area in the field of reproduction, but the thing that I was impressed about in talking with him was his lack of any usable training.