Mr. Paine. I suppose it was the—I had a .22 when I was a kid.
Mr. Liebeler. A .22 caliber rifle?
Mr. Paine. Yes; I had two of them. I kept that in better condition, I mean, this was a rustic looking blanket, it looked as though it had been kicked around. It was dusty, and it seemed to me it was wrapped with a twine or something, tied up with a twine. So I thought of, it looked to me like the kind of blanket I had used for a bed roll on the ground.
I suppose that is the thought that started me thinking in the line of camping equipment. And then I suppose I must have felt, I felt a pipe, at least, and maybe some sense of there being more than one pipe but I drew that picture that I drew, I didn't sense that there being another pipe I didn't put it in because I never did place another pipe around it.
Mr. Liebeler. You never placed another pipe——
Mr. Paine. I had the idea there might have been more than one pipe here or I didn't know where the other pipe might be.
Mr. Liebeler. At the time you picked it up, at any time that you picked it up, did you have the idea that there might be more than two pipes inside the package.
Mr. Paine. Well, I would never have mentioned camping equipment, you see, without, you can't make anything without more than one pipe.
Mr. Liebeler. Think of the configuration of the package or of the way it acted when you moved it, was there any indication in that sense that there was more than one pipe inside.
Mr. Paine. No; I think it was a homogenous, that is to say it didn't move one part with respect to another.