Mr. Paine. Yes.
Mr. Liebeler. You say that end is too thick.
Mr. Paine. As I have it wrapped.
Mr. Liebeler. Yes; and you say in the center of the package in which we have the rifle wrapped you say that is not thick enough. But by thick enough do you mean the width or the actual thickness of the package?
Mr. Paine. I thought of the package pretty much as all of the same thickness, calling the width from type—calling the rifle and the scope of the rifle the width.
Mr. Liebeler. The width?
Mr. Paine. The width across the bolt, the direction of the bolt as the thickness. So I thought of it as a more or less constant thickness of the package and not quite so—I would have to wrap it in some manner to move some of this bulk up into here, but I don't want to do it so much that I can't grab that feel of pipe.
That feels, it is quite a lot like it and there could almost have been two pipes there.
Mr. Liebeler. When you say it is quite a lot like it you grasped the "A" end of the rifle or the muzzle of the rifle, is that correct?
Mr. Paine. Yes.