Mr. Liebeler. Do you remember talking to your wife on the telephone on Saturday, November 23?
Mr. Paine. I may have called her from the police station or something like that.
Mr. Liebeler. I am going to unwrap the package with the rifle which was wrapped in the blanket, and I want to ask you if you had ever seen this rifle, Commission Exhibit 139, before?
Mr. Paine. Not to my—the first time I saw a rifle, I didn't realize that he had a rifle. I thought, I knew he liked rifles because he spoke fondly of them in the Soviet Union although he regretted that he couldn't own a rifle, and I supposed that he still didn't have one so I didn't see a rifle until the night of the 22d when Marina was shown a rifle in an adjoining cubicle glass between us.
Mr. Liebeler. You observed through the glass a rifle being shown to Marina Oswald?
Mr. Paine. That is right.
Mr. Liebeler. Did you hear any of the questions being asked her at that time?
Mr. Paine. No; I couldn't hear.
Mr. Liebeler. Did your wife see this rifle being shown to Marina Oswald?
Mr. Paine. She was in the room with her.