Mr. Jenner. The full name is Dimitri Robert Royster—go right ahead.

Mr. Raigorodsky. (Handed instrument to Counsel Jenner.) That gives us the history of the situation here, but then we had a split here between the Russians who came to this country escaping the Communists or Bolsheviks, at that time we called them—they called themselves the Guard.

Mr. Jenner. The original church that you helped organize, that is referred to as the Old Guard?

Mr. Raigorodsky. That's right, and St. Seraphim you see, because we both occupy the same premises and I was the head of both of them.

Mr. Jenner. You were the head of both churches?

Mr. Raigorodsky. Oh, yes; I belong to both churches. In fact I belong to three churches.

Mr. Jenner. They are different parishes in the same church, aren't they?

Mr. Raigorodsky. No, they are entirely different churches. I would like to explain to you—you see, in this country—I'm quite sure you know—I don't know whether you would be interested in what I am going to tell you about?

Mr. Jenner. I am primarily interested in this—from the depositions I have taken and inquiries I have made, my impression is that one of the immediate sources of obtaining acquaintanceship in the community by refugees who come here is through the church.

Mr. Raigorodsky. That's correct.