So, on the way back—he got some kind of papers, I think it was two copies or three copies of papers——

Mr. Jenner. From the hospital?

Mrs. Dymitruk. From the doctor to go to the service desk.

Mr. Jenner. Yes.

Mrs. Dymitruk. So, at the service desk—he was standing here [indicating], I was behind him, and Marina was behind me with the baby. So—and the service desk asked question—the address and if he's working, and he said "No."

Mr. Jenner. Not working?

Mrs. Dymitruk. No. Then she said, "Do you have unemployment—do you get some unemployment money?"

He said, "No."

And she said, "Well, how do you live then?"

He said, "Well, friends helping me."