Mr. Raigorodsky. Yes, sir.

Mr. Jenner. And you were here when he came here, were you?

Mr. Raigorodsky. Well, let's say that I met George De Mohrenschildt in Dallas while I was coming here, just—you know—just occasionally to see my friends, probably about, I'll say 15 or 17 years ago, somewhere in that neighborhood.

Mr. Jenner. Had you heard of him prior to that time?

Mr. Raigorodsky. Yes; I heard of him through Jake Hamon.

Mr. Jenner. Through Mr. Hamon?

Mr. Raigorodsky. Hamon, H-a-m-o-n [spelling]—Jake.

Mr. Jenner. Who is he?

Mr. Raigorodsky. He is an oilman friend of mine here, quite well known, and he told me there was a Russian here—do I know him, and I said, "No; I hadn't heard about him." That's how I met him—at a party.

Mr. Jenner. You are talking about George De Mohrenschildt?