Mr. Raigorodsky. Or what?

Mr. Jenner. Dartmouth, or the University of Chicago?

Mr. Raigorodsky. It might be, now, but at that time when I first learned it—he was at the University of Chicago.

Mr. Jenner. And his first name?

Mr. Raigorodsky. I don't remember.

Mr. Jenner. What did you say his first name was?

Mr. Raigorodsky. I don't remember.

Mr. Jenner. I thought you gave it to me the other day?

Mr. Raigorodsky. No.

Mr. Jenner. Maybe I could get it from some other source?