Mr. Jenner. The conversations between Mrs. Paine and Marina in Russian, were they conversations related to personal matters—the children?
Mr. Mamantov. The children; and only on one occasion I remember was to her protection—Marina's protection.
Mr. Jenner. And what was that?
Mr. Mamantov. "What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. Jenner. Who made that statement?
Mr. Mamantov. Marina asked of Mrs. Paine.
Mr. Jenner. "What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. Mamantov. What are they going to do with me now?"
Mr. Jenner. And what did Mrs. Paine say?
Mr. Mamantov. Well, then, she asked—are they going to send her back to the Soviet Union, and Mrs. Paine said, "I don't know," and then she looked at me and I said, "I don't know either. If you are innocent, then you will be innocent." I couldn't say one way or the other, and I didn't want to go into conversation.