Mr. Jenner. You told us earlier in the course of our visiting that you participated in an effort to organize a church here in Dallas?
Mr. Mamantov. In Dallas.
Mr. Jenner. In which you anticipated people of Russian derivation would be interested?
Mr. Mamantov. That's correct.
Mr. Jenner. And did that church have a name?
Mr. Mamantov. Saint Nicholas Eastern Orthodox Church.
Mr. Jenner. Eastern Orthodox Church?
Mr. Mamantov. That's correct, and there I saw him and her, I'm talking about Zhana, very improperly dressed for a church service. If I remember right, either both of them or she came in shorts toward the end of the service, which shocked all my family. I mean—just to describe a man this way——
Mr. Jenner. You mean this is part of his personality?
Mr. Mamantov. Right; and every place we met him he was talking to ladies elder than he, in a way normally a well brought up person wouldn't do it.