Mr. Jenner. Did he have a reputation for being unpleasant, pleasant, was he sociable in the sense that he was at ease among other people, did he seek their company? I'm asking now, only reputation, sir.

Mr. Mamantov. Again, I can say only in the houses he has been—for one reason or another he was disliked—I'll put it this way.

Mr. Jenner. All right—by the Russian emigre group as a whole?

Mr. Mamantov. That's correct.

Mr. Jenner. They had a low opinion of his reputation in the community, in that community of people—Mr. Mamantov?

Mr. Mamantov. That's right.

Mr. Jenner. It was one of reservation, dislike—that they did not think well of his personality?

Mr. Mamantov. That's correct, he was holding back and he didn't try to make friends or he didn't try, was what I heard—he tried to keep Marina away from those people and appeared a couple of times with her in other Russian houses, but not very willingly and was holding back.

Mr. Jenner. He was holding back?

Mr. Mamantov. Right.