Mr. Jenner. No, that's a different person.
Mr. Mamantov. Yes.
Mr. Jenner. Paul Gregory or Peter Gregory?
Mr. Mamantov. Yes, sir; father, I think, is Peter.
Mr. Jenner. You mean one is the father and one is son?
Mr. Mamantov. One is father's name and one is son's name—that's correct, but his father is not living. Do you know how Russians call your name—if I would refer to you, it is your name first and your father's name second, instead of saying Mr. so and so, so that's how it appears.
Mr. Jenner. What do they say in case—since my name and my father's name are the same?
Mr. Mamantov. The same—it would be, if you are, for instance, Oswald, it would be Oswald Oswald, each ending implies you are a son of Oswald.
Mr. Jenner. You have already mentioned Volkmar Schmidt.
Mr. Mamantov. Right.