Mrs. Gravitis. The boy was born in 1961. Yes; 1960, the summer of 1960.

Mr. Belin. After the boy was born, did you ever give her any more Russian language lessons?

Mrs. Gravitis. Yes; during the fall when the boy was a few months old.

Mr. Belin. Did you keep up contact with Mrs. Paine after she quit taking lessons?

Mrs. Gravitis. Yes.

Mr. Belin. When did you first hear or learn about Marina Oswald?

Mrs. Gravitis. Either April or May. Probably April. Mr. and Mrs. Fredricksen came to our house and told us they had attended a party, that there was an American who came recently from the Soviet Union, and his wife is a Russian.

Mr. Belin. When did you first have a conversation with Marina Oswald?

Mrs. Gravitis. I never have talked with her in person, but only on the phone. In May of that particular year, Mrs. Paine went to San Antonio, and she asked me would I help Marina because she doesn't know the English language and nobody could help her.

Mr. Belin. This was Mrs. Paine?