Mrs. Gravitis. Two.

Mr. Belin. When did the first conversation take place, and what was said?

Mrs. Gravitis. The time when Mrs. Paine went to San Antonio, we had a severe storm, and the next day in the morning, I called Marina at the Paine's home.

Mr. Belin. This would have been when?

Mrs. Gravitis. I think this was in May 1962, or 1963, I forget. This was this past summer, 1963.

Mr. Belin. What did Marina Oswald say? Did she say where she was from and where she lived before she came to this country?

Mrs. Gravitis. I asked her where did she come from, from what city in Russia. The answer was, she came from Leningrad and used to live in Leningrad, on Ligovka Street.

Mr. Belin. Did she say she lived anywhere else other than Leningrad?

Mrs. Gravitis. She said she lived in Minsk and got married in Minsk, and together with her husband—excuse me it is just the reverse. She lived in Minsk, got married in Minsk, and went to Leningrad and lived on this street in Leningrad.

Mr. Belin. After she was married?