Mrs. Gravitis. At that time there were approximately 2 million, which is 1 percent, approximately. And I have read recently that there are approximately 5 or more million people members.
Mr. Belin. But she doesn't know of her own knowledge?
Mr. Mamantov. She read. She said that she read recently also that there are approximately 20 million of the communistic youth members, or members of the communistic youth organization.
Mrs. Gravitis. If you don't belong to that organization, you cannot get education. You cannot advance in your educational system.
Mr. Belin. Did Marina Oswald say whether she was a Communist?
Mrs. Gravitis. She said that when she got married she was expelled from the communistic youth organization, which in Russia is called Komsomol.
Mr. Belin. Did she say why she was expelled?
Mrs. Gravitis. Because she married an American. I understood that this was the reason why she was expelled. And I asked how did they allow you to leave the Soviet Union. When you are expelled, they considered them as enemies of the people, and they don't give them permission even to work, a working permit. And they don't give those people also the free education or scholarship.
Mr. Belin. When you are expelled from the Communist movement, does this affect whether or not you get out of the country?
Mrs. Gravitis. I don't know. I think it wouldn't help.