Mr. Liebeler. So the first time, then, that you met Oswald was at his brother's place in Fort Worth?

Mr. Gregory. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Who was present at that first meeting?

Mr. Gregory. His brother's name, I think, was Bob Oswald. Bob Oswald's wife and their children, I think they had two or three young kids, Lee, and Marina, and June Lee, their baby, those were the only people there.

Mr. Liebeler. Plus your father and yourself?

Mr. Gregory. Yes.

Mr. Liebeler. Tell us, to the best of your recollection, what the conversation was at that time?

Mr. Gregory. I remember they brought out pictures which they had taken in the Soviet Union and showed us where they had lived in Minsk, and I believe they might have had pictures of Leningrad. I am not sure. And then this evening there was something said about their trip back, how they passed through Poland and Germany. And then my father wanted to know how, what Marina thought of Russia, if it had changed after all the years. And that was the general tone of the conversation.

Mr. Liebeler. Can you remember any details of the conversation about the Oswalds' life in Russia?

Mr. Gregory. At this time I did not. Later on we had quite a bit of discussion about it, but not this time.